He described Ravnik casting as a square peg in a round hole, stemming from the fact that he danced with Swift on her tour. At the end of the podcast, Chmerkovskiy and Murgatroyd concluded that "hiring a non-ballroom dancer to teach ballroom dancing to a celebrity as a job is outrageous."

Affleck and Ravnik are hoping to deliver a passionate response with a contemporary number set to "Look What You Made Me Do" by Taylor Swift.